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Author: The Ancient Armourer Created: 2011/01/15 02:58 AM RssIcon
Stories, information and photos relating to my personal experiences in the War In Angola.
By Phillip Vietri on 2011/01/22 11:55 PM
The exact terminology of the Seventies I no longer remember, but the Infantry Basics was effectively about three months long. The first six weeks of this I have described in Part One. The next six weeks passed relatively quickly and uneventfully, except for the time my wax ear-plug popped just as I fired. I ascribe the tinnitus from which I suffer today to that single shot. Ironic, isn’t it; they wanted to G5 me because of the right eye, and yet it was with a damaged right ear that I came away, my vision intact. The hardest for me during this second period was Buddy PT, especially skaapdra, which isn’t really saying much for most guys. But it all did come to an end.                 I had survived the G1 training. Just. But I had survived. I was fitter and healthier than I had ever been, feeling really good. And my Afrikaans was already beautifully fluent. It was clear that I would never be great infanteris, that my left-eyed shooting was probably more of a danger to the SADF than it would ever be to the enemy....
By Phillip Vietri on 2011/01/18 01:59 AM
This is a blog, not a scholarly paper. I hope that its title is not too misleading. I have written a narrative, rather than a “balanced” article of pros and cons leading to an academic conclusion. But as an Italian South African who grew to maturity between the mid-fifties and the mid-Seventies, my experience of the English-Afrikaans thing has been so markedly different from that of many others that I feel compelled to offer mine as a corrective view. I haven’t a drop of either’s blood in my veins, and therefore no prior allegiance to either group. What I have done, is simply to tell the story of my relationship with both.

But first, I must declare an interest. I regard myself today as an Afrikaans-speaking South African. I made the transition during the course of my army days, as a direct consequence of my personal experiences. I was once told that I am “very pro-Afrikaans”, as though there is something wrong with this. The underlying presumption is that to be “pro-English” is to be objective, whereas...
By Phillip Vietri on 2011/01/18 01:27 AM
Why am I writing this in the first place?

I’m not quite sure why I’m writing this blog. Many of those who have real Angola War experiences to share were involved, right at the Border, during those tumultuous years. My little story is comparatively tame and uninteresting. Operation Savannah happened in the month in which I cleared out, and I did no camps, so that my experience remains in something of a time-warp. My story is full of stops and starts, embarrassing narratives and generally nothing much. What I can tell you is what it was like for a physical weakling to do the full G1K1 SADF training; how even a militarily useless individual can achieve something, somewhere in the army; what SADF life was like during the mid-70s. In short, I can perhaps tell you something about those early years, before our first unofficial official crossing of the Border; and perhaps add to the human legacy of those years. Savannah didn’t happen in a vacuum, and this story will fill in something of what led up to it, and...
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Re: An SADF Conscript Remembers the Early 70s – Part One
Very interesting read. I was also a Durban 1973 intake ( may 1973 to 4 SAI ) My experience of the whole 'boertjie - soutie ' thing was a little different. Right in the beginning there was a bit of " Wat kyk jy jou blerrie Engelsman" / " What's your problem clutchplate / dutchman" but I would say that by halfway through basic that had gone almost completely. The platoon I was in after basic was probably 70 % English 30 % Afrikaans but in reality there was no distinction at all among us. Our platoon had an Afrikaans lieutenant , the other two platoons in the company had English speaking lieutenants . There was not a man in either of those two platoons who would not have jumped at the chance to join our platoon. It sounds like a stupid war cliche but we really would have followed that man into hell and back. We loved that man and would have done anything he asked. He never shouted at us to do anything . Only ever asked and it was done. Just before we went to the border we lost him. He had to go home on compassionate leave and he never rejoined us. We all felt like we had lost a father. And here is the thing. He was also just a DP like us who started off the year before us and naturally being degreed was older than most of us. Anyway that was my experience. One other little thing. You mentioned that they were not allowed to hit you ?. No-one told the PTI's or PF instructors that at 4 SAL lol . I had the shit kicked out of me on the shooting range so hard I fell beneath the 'skietpunt'. When I clambered back the staff sgt inquired in a faux concerned way ' Het meneer seer gekry ?. Will meneer n klagte afle ?. Moet ek vir meneer n vormpie gaan haal. ??. I just managed to stammer 'Nee staff' to all three questions. I had stood up and turned around after getting a stoppage and got the man's point. Anyway this is your blog not mine. Thanks for your blog.
By john jones on: 06 August 2018
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
Have got new info - NATO actions perhaps suspicious, but Russia also has a problem. Need more intel on Russia before helping it. BRICS and Zuma, Rusatom nuclear power (poor whites will pay again), Russian war veterans on the Freedom Park memorial etc. Very complicated topic, with lots of "fake" news.
By German volunteer on: 27 October 2017
Re: Various opfoks and rondfoks during Basics
I don't comment much, have enough personal challenges to deal with.

An old Afrikaans proverb: Vra is vry, en die weier daarby/It costs nothing to ask, including the refusal.

I have always wondered...

Is there no way how the old SADF highly experienced officers, that is, those that still are alive (they are heavily chopping in our part of the woods nowadays), can somehow assist in defusing the situation with Nato/USA encroaching on Russias borders? It is just not right what is busy happening there right now.
By German volunteer on: 08 May 2017
Re: An SADF Conscript Remembers the Early 70s – Part One
Thanks, Ian. I was not always as positive, especially in the beginning when I was a sissy and a weakling. But in the end it was worth it, though. Buddies and vasbyt did the trick. I think that pig-headedness and vanity also played a role. Does it matter? I think not, since the upshot was to make me a proud soldier. Thanks again.
By The Ancient Armourer on: 15 May 2016
Re: An SADF Conscript Remembers the Early 70s – Part One
I had a bad attitude going into the Army.Basics at Walvis Bay,the voortrekkerhoogte for Dog Handling then of Lenasia 95 ammo depot.I finished and ended up going to the border twice.We were blown up in a mine at yati strip.Now,looking back I wish that I had met you with that good attitude.I am proud to have served my country.I was rifleman I.D.Chalmers 73420325.I ended up getting one stripe. The border was an experience that most young men should have.
By ian(Duncan) on: 14 May 2016
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By edupdf.org on: 07 April 2016
Re: The English-Afrikaans thing in the SADF - another view
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got your point, now bugger off, you spam robot.

Than Kyou.
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By ufgop.org on: 14 January 2016
Re: On the Shooting Range
Thank you for putting an effort to published this article. You've done a great job! Good bless!Yong
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By ufgop.org on: 19 November 2015
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By hanna on: 19 November 2015
Re: Guard Duty at 81TSD
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By ufgop.org on: 24 October 2015
Re: The English-Afrikaans thing in the SADF - another view
"Perhaps the change in the country these past 20 years has caused us to look at each other with new eyes." Thats a fact. And we have matured, moved on. We now are the "old toppies" and tend to look less emotionally at some of yesterdays important questions.

And keep on blogging, it makes one feel young again!
By German volunteer on: 13 October 2015
Re: The English-Afrikaans thing in the SADF - another view
Thanks for all the contributions here, which have made for interesting and enriching reading. As most have noticed, I have never made a sweeping condemnation of English-speakers, just expressed my experience (as a corrective) at the hands of those I knew in Natal. We all have different experiences. The SADF was, for most of us, a leveller, myself included. When I moved to Bloemfontein recently, I was very pleasantly surprised by the level of bilinguality amongst both English and Afrikaans home-language speakers. This is, perhaps, in itself a lesson. Except for the odd, tiny bigoted pockets of both language groups, some of which are confessional in origin, it seems to me that in so many ways, by 2015 we have all grown out of the prejudices of former years. Perhaps the change in the country these past 20 years has caused us to look at each other with new eyes.
By The Ancient Armourer on: 10 October 2015